Umfiedler ausweis

[jim arrasmith]

I have two of these,they are of young ethnic German boys from the black sea area naturalized in to the reich.both in to the waffen ss,with the same Dr.signing both cards.Your opinions please.

[jim arrasmith]

The first is Otto:thumbup1:

[jim arrasmith]

The 2th id Diehl:thumbup1:

[jim arrasmith]

MORE:thumbup1:

[Rob Johnson]

Jim-

I don't have any examples of Umfiedler Ausweis in my collection to compare, but based on the accompanying documents and from what I can make out in the photos, everything looks good. That's an interesting Volksturm Ausweis... Haven't seen one like this before.

Do you have better images of the Bauer and Diehl oilcloth Umfiedler Ausweis? I'd like to take a closer look at those. I find it interesting that these were filled out and issued two days apart, yet the Bauer Ausweis is numbered 1009432 and the Diehl 1013206. Given the amount of time (just two days) between the two being issued, I would expect to see these numbers a bit closer (unless 3,800 were issued in two days!) Definitely not something to be worried about, IMHO.

Nice little groupings. Thanks for sharing them with us.


Rob

[jim arrasmith]

I will take some close up pics tommorow,The cards came from two different places.Both very respected collectors.:thumbup:

[Rob Johnson]

I will take some close up pics tommorow,The cards came from two different places.Both very respected collectors.:thumbup:

I'm sure the did ;) Nice pieces... Thanks again for sharing them with us.


Rob

[clevischi]

They are good war time examples. This is my one, its very similar:

[Rob Johnson]

Very nice, Carlos! I take it there was a 'find' of these Umfiedler Ausweis groupings... Does anyone know how and when they all surfaced?

Rob

[jim arrasmith]

OTTO I got from Jay Gillespie,who had it for years.:)

[jim arrasmith]

These from what I understand where to be kept on office file,not to be kept on their person.

[clevischi]

I ve got mine from Bill Shea, that have another one about 2 years ago.

[jim arrasmith]

CLOSE UPS:closedeyes:

[jim arrasmith]

LAST:thumbup:

[Jungco]

First off, it's umsiedler not umfiedler. Umsiedler means resettlement. There were quit a few of these files on the market recently ( I have one myself) and represent "volkdeutscher" who were recently "reunited" with the Fatherland from various occupied eastern countries. The SS had a regular "industry" (the Reichskommissariat für die Festigung des Deutschen Volkstum) set up to relocate people who had German ancestry. Many of these people had Volkstum (not volksturm) ausweis, showing the were of German nationality.
Jeff

[Rob Johnson]

First off, it's umsiedler not umfiedler. Umsiedler means resettlement. There were quit a few of these files on the market recently ( I have one myself) and represent "volkdeutscher" who were recently "reunited" with the Fatherland from various occupied eastern countries. The SS had a regular "industry" (the Reichskommissariat für die Festigung des Deutschen Volkstum) set up to relocate people who had German ancestry.
Jeff


Thanks for the correction on the wording, Jeff.



Many of these people had Volkstum (not volksturm) ausweis, showing the were of German nationality.

Ah, yes I see. That explains things... I couldn't make out the spelling from the low-res image on screen but when I download and open it in Photoshop it clearly says Volkstum. Thanks for clearing that up.

Rob

[jim arrasmith]

Well I am just plane dum:001_tt2::001_tt2:
,Jeff do you sill have the paper work website on german ID's?If so what is the address.:lol::lol::lol:

[Jungco]

Jim,
I still do. It's: www.jungco.homestead.com
We have a nice article on Luftwaffe licenses.
Jeff

[jim arrasmith]

Many thanks,Great web site:thumbup: