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hucks216
18th April 2010, 11:16
Thought that I'd start a thread for members to show the first citation that they obtained in their collection (or mention it, if it has moved on), whether it came with an award you bought, just caught your eye, impressive or mundane.
Mine fits in to the last category - a KvK 2 Klasse that I saw going for a couple of ££'s around 20 years ago in a small military section of an antiques type store in Plymouth. Although it was a few more years before I decided to concentrate on paperwork this one was the first and it remains in my collection to this day.
stgeorge64
21st April 2010, 10:45
Great idea for a thread!
The first ever paperwork which came into my collection was a pair of Black Wound Badge citations to a Heer Jager Regiment. They did not stay long and were soon out of the door in a trade.
The first Iron Cross citation was an EKI citation ink signed by Heinz Harmel to a member of the 10.SS-Panzer-Division for actions during Op MARKET GARDEN. Unbelievably, I let it go out in a trade and have regretted in to this day.......
No scans of any of these items as this was well before the days of scanners and copiers!
Regards Richard.
stewy
25th April 2010, 18:05
Here's my first. Stewy
fischer
28th April 2010, 15:17
Here is mine.
Best Regards, fischer
Justin
28th April 2010, 19:11
Like Richard, My First Document/s have a new Home. Had them long enough to spark my interest in all things Urkunde. Nice to see your examples Gent's.
bobcam1
1st May 2010, 04:20
My first urkundes came as a set of three wound badge documents, issued to the same soldier. His name was Paul Pachtmann. If any of you can provide more information on him, I'd be grateful....:)
Bob.
Justin
1st May 2010, 07:34
Bob, Nice set of Documents, First link is in German. If you copy and Paste URL into Google you will see option to translate this link into English. http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Infanteriedivisionen/110ID-R.htm http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/PionierBat/PiBat110.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3D110%2Binf%2Bdivision%26start%3D20%26h l%3Den%26sa%3DN&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgdD4NJe3aFfUrWxpKt6ip1UPxPeA
hucks216
1st May 2010, 10:01
My first urkundes came as a set of three wound badge documents, issued to the same soldier. His name was Paul Pachtmann. If any of you can provide more information on him, I'd be grateful....:)
Bob.
Hello Bob,
Nice to see all three grades to the same man. Do you still have these?
Interestingly, there is a Paul Pachtmann in the Volksbund database as dying on 3rd Nov 1947. It has his birth year as 1905 (no day or month listed, nor birth or place of death) and is buried in the military cemetery at Neubrandenburg-Fünfeichen in something called a Comrades Grave (I don't know what this actually is, a mass grave perhaps? Hopefully another member might be able to help determine that).
If this is the same man then it looks as if the mass of injuries caught up with him just 2 & a half years after the war ended.
Martin W
1st May 2010, 14:09
My first urkunde's came as a group awarded to a crewman who served on the Hilfskreuzer Orion.
Two of the documents are signed by the Commander of the Orion,Kurt Weyer.
Storch later joined the Minesweeper arm of the KM where he received his MS badge and EKI.
Needless to say i am now "hooked" on award certificates and have managed to obtain Hilfskreuzer award doc's for crewmen who seved on the the HK's,Kormoran,Stier and Thor.
Regards,Martin.
hucks216
1st May 2010, 14:37
My first urkunde's came as a group awarded to a crewman who served on the Hilfskreuzer Orion.
Two of the documents are signed by the Commander of the Orion,Kurt Weyer.
Storch later joined the Minesweeper arm of the KM where he received his MS badge and EKI...
Regards,Martin.
As Urkunde debuts go that's not a bad one at all!! :thumbup1:
bobcam1
1st May 2010, 15:21
Bob, Nice set of Documents, First link is in German. If you copy and Paste URL into Google you will see option to translate this link into English. http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/Infanteriedivisionen/110ID-R.htm http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.lexikon-der-wehrmacht.de/Gliederungen/PionierBat/PiBat110.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3D110%2Binf%2Bdivision%26start%3D20%26h l%3Den%26sa%3DN&rurl=translate.google.co.uk&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhgdD4NJe3aFfUrWxpKt6ip1UPxPeA
Justin and hucks.....
Thanks very much for the information!...I'm grateful to both of you.
Bob.
Spike Jones
3rd May 2010, 15:04
My first doc.
Medal did not come with it.
hucks216
3rd May 2010, 15:34
My first doc.
Medal did not come with it.
That is a great urkunde to start off with :thumbup1: From that photo it looks like it is hand signed in pencil by Rommel.
Spike Jones
3rd May 2010, 16:28
That is a great urkunde to start off with :thumbup1: From that photo it looks like it is hand signed in pencil by Rommel.
Got it in one :thumbup:
hucks216
3rd May 2010, 16:40
Got it in one :thumbup:
You lucky so & so :wink: That is a signature on a citation that I have been after for a while. Why not post it in the Signature thread in the Photos & Ephemera section, it would be a great addition...
http://worldwarmilitaria.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2655&page=17
Spike Jones
3rd May 2010, 17:58
Will do.
I will take a better scan of it and post there
Justin
4th May 2010, 14:57
Scans of this Doc on the Sig thread are much better Quality, Very nice Document you have there Mike!
My first doc.
Medal did not come with it.
Gew44
18th May 2010, 19:44
My first urkunde.
hucks216
18th May 2010, 19:57
Nice possible Op Citadel related citation signed by August Schmidt. I have found a thread on Feldgrau that gives a little information on the 10 Pz Gren Div's Pz.Jag Abt for July 1943 which might interest you...
http://www.feldgrau.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=31159
Gew44
18th May 2010, 20:06
Very kind, thanks a lot
Trigger
19th May 2010, 19:58
Hi,
I am not sure if this qualifies as urkunde:confused1:
Apologies for a bad photo with flash...
My first piece of paperwork, and I still have it:001_tt1:
Awarded to the gruppe Feurstein participants of the forced march from Fauske towards Narvik to rescue Dietl's troops in the battle of Narvik 1940..
Best regards,
hucks216
19th May 2010, 20:46
That certainly counts - and a very nice item it is too. I haven't seen one of those before.
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