Heer NCO's sword

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Guys, I though that I would show this sword from my collection. It is the only one I have.

I like the design of these swords, even though they are rather plain being devoid of eagles and swastikas.

Cheers, Ade.

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi,

It's plain indeed... But the design is nice.

Regards, Wim :)

[Swordfish]

Ade-
Nice looking piece. Looks to be brass hilted, with aluminum grip wire. Probably a later example. Your portepee appears to be mint.

On a side not, the Holler 30 I posted came with a mint sword knot...but she was dry as heck. I've been reconstituting her over the last week. She should be about ready to reattach. I'll post images of her. FYI- I use Pecards, for antique leather. Follwed up by a very light coat of museum wax to trap the moisture. Pecards does a good job of inhibiting red leather rot once you have it. If a piece is rampant with the stuff, forget it. Shes as good as dead. But if just a little, you can inhibit further degredation.

Again, Ade, she's a winner. The scabbard paint looks about 100% and that blade is mirror bright...also looks 100%. Good job my friend. Although plan Jane and devoid of the national symbold and wehrmacht eagle, these are such classy looking pieces.

Alot of casual saber collectors only want examples with the symbols. They dismiss wonderful examples like the crossed oak leaf sprig Roon examples, which in my opinion are some of the most attractive pieces. Nice, plane hilted NCO and EM sabers can still be had for decent prices on the fleabay. One recently sold for only $130. I should have got on board with that one but I had a big bid out on a decent WKC flat knuckle example....which consequently I didn't win.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Guys, a friend came over this afternoon to show me a sword which he is thinking of selling. I had not seen one with a scabbard finished liked this one before in silver. But I am not a big sword collector and have no reference material on them. The blade is mint and unmarked.

Any info would be great. Thanks!

Cheers, Ade.

[Swordfish]

Ade, nothing wrong it. Seen periodically. A premium private purchase option I believe. Typically the nickel plated scabbards are seen on Imperiallk and Weimar pieces and often with dual suspension rings. Again, to the best of my knowledge, these are A. O.K.

I don't have any examples with plated scabbards in my collection however. Perhaps Fred P can chime in and add a bit more or correct me if i'm wrong.

Tom

[Adrian Stevenson]

Thanks Tom. I thought it looked OK, but my lack of knowledge on these worried me. I might make my friend an offer on it. I know he paid £230 for it.

Cheers, Ade.

[Swordfish]

Ade-
Is the blade etched on this EM example?

The market for these is kinda' soft right now. A buyers market so to speak. I would be reluctant to spend too much on a plane Jane example. the nickel plated scabbard has a positive effect on value, although not too much.

A guy on gunbroker is selling one with a factory tripple etch for $425, included is a police portepee (clearly not original to the piece). The guy is sort of goofy and he doesn't like me because I told him he's asking too much based on current market conditions, but still, someone might be able to score his saber for a little less.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Tom, no the blade is totally plain, but spotless.

Cheers, Ade.

[Frogprince]

Similar types of swords were carried during the Imperial era. But these look to be TR with both examples looking like nice swords. With one having the standard black lacquer scabbard and a plus (IMO) with the Eickhorn logo, and the other the optional extra cost factory nickel plating which is not as commonly seen (at least in my experience).

Known as the Mannschaftsäbel, they would have normally been carried by enlisted men in the (horse) mounted branches in the German Army by junior grade NCO's and/or lower ranks as private purchases. And are quite collectible I think because they are much scarcer than (for example) the great multitude of dress bayonets. Best Regards to All, FP

[Swordfish]

Ade-

Did you move foreward on the piece we discussed after all? Id like to see some nice photos of her should you have grabbed her.

The one of GB.com is a relatively nice example with a simple factory etch, and complete with a police knot. With that batch of fake etches which came out of the UK during the 70s found on some of these EMs and bayos, I was initially suspect. However, after speaking with some of you guys who are familiar with etches, it appears to be genuine. If someone is looking for a nice example, and willing to overpay by a bit, the one i'm describing may be the one for you. It's worth a look anyway. Search "german saber" on GB and you'll see it.

Tom

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Guys, the sword is now with me :thumbup: I have done a deal with my friend. I will take some new photos and add them to this thread.

Cheers, Ade.

[Swordfish]

Hello Ade-

Congrats. It's a nice looking EM saber.

I've been eyeing one on the auction sites lately, but still priced a bit high for the "buy it now" price. It's an EM with a simple etch and a police knot. If someone is looking for one, and is willing to spend a little over $400, it may be for you.

Again, good looking sabel Ade. The simplicity of the plain Jane nickel EM sabers always looks nice. The black celluloid grips work well with the contrast of the silver colored plated hilt. The touch of green provided by the portepee adds that "splash" of earthy color rounding off the piece to make an aesthetically pleasing example.

Tom

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Guys, I have taken some pics today, but I have struggled to do it justice, what with the reflective nature of the plated metal.

Both sword and scabbard are spotless with no flaws or plating loss. The blade is really nice .

Cheers, Ade.

[Chuck Alan]

Greetings Ade~

Wonderful sabre you have there. It looks to be in impeccable condition, obviously very well taken care of. The condition of the portepee matches the sabre as well. Truly a wonderful piece.

Chuck