Horster swords images request

[Mark C. Yerger]

Can someone post the various animal headed Horster Army swords? Only 1 in Angolia's book and have seen more than that.

[Swordfish]

Mark-

I'm not aware of any other style of Army hilts Horster produced, other than the dovehead and lionhead pommels. I'm not sure if they produced an eagles head justice saber or not. Horster was not as prolific with various patterns as other manufacturers were.

** See my post below for further, explanations and some different patterns I was able to find.



Tom

[Mark C. Yerger]

I could swear I've seen a pattern different than the single one shown in Angolia's sword book (was in brass).

[Swordfish]

Mark-

There are some variances with Horster patterns as it relates to the pommel/backstrap assembly with regards to cast vs. chiseled hilts, integrated backstrap grip retention flanges, as well as different obverse langet patters, not pictured in Angolia.

I was able to track down a few "panther head" examples. However, I'm not sure if these panther pommels/backstrap were produced by Horster, or if they sub'd/utilized parts from another manufacturer. I'd have to research it more.

#1- Roon style, hand worked Horster marked dovehead, with etch, blue panel, and attibuted. Craig G listed on forum
#2- Standary Horster lionhead seen in Angolia. Owner Witty
#3- Roony style saber, hand worked example which appears identical to #1. Witty
#4- Panther head style pommel and pinless grip retention flanges. Perhaps this pommel/backstrap assembly was not manufactured by Horster and is shared part from another company. From the forums
#5- Etched piece with lionhead and pinless grip retention flages. Note the odd obverse lanet.

Also, don't forget Horster did produce KM pattern swords as well. Obviously, the backstrap assembly on these is different. And the fliegerschwert as well.

So there are some variations out there I guess. I just don't know if some of the variations used components manufactured by the Horster firm.

If someone has some of the complete period catalogs, we might get a better sense of what's what.

[Swordfish]

Some other examples.

#1- typically and most prolific Horster pattern. Same pattern in Angolia. Owner- Nellis
#2- Another example of a Horster "roon" style saber- Paul (lakesidetrader)
#3- your typical dovehead Horster, also listed in Angolia Owner Witty

Don't forget about the examples with the "baron" marking. Perhaps the Baron is a distibuter marking as the saber pictured in Angolia looks identical to the angular Horster langet in every way.

I currently own only the 2 patterns pictured in Angolia. Consequently, these are also by far the most common Horster pattern sabers found.

[Mark C. Yerger]

Thanks for your time and help. The one I had was a rather massive brass example, top different than those shown (sorry, no photo) with the "dotted" design in the area equal to a crossguard.

Wish I'd kept a photo, more a horsehead than a Tiger or Lion.

Was the biggest pommel I'd ever seen, rather regret letting it go.

Mark

[Swordfish]

Sorry Mark. Never seen it. In fact i'm having a difficult time conceptualizing what it would even look like. I'll continue to search and keep my eyes open since Heer sabers are my focal area. I don't know much about the Horster firm, and have never been a huge fan of their Heer sabers. That being said, i do however really enjoy their early nickel-silver fliegerschwerts. I kept a Horster flyers with the school markings, and as mentioned early, I have the 2 obligatory Heer patterns, which are not only the most common, but also the ones pictured in Angolia. I would like to add their "roon" style Heer pattern when one pops up which meets my needs and meets the standards I would like.

** Mark- I should ask...the piece you are referencing from memory, is it attributed to the NS era? Or from another era, Imperial, or Weimar? Some of the larger pommeld pieces, and larger gripped pieces pre-date many of the NS era sabers.

Tom

[Mark C. Yerger]

Sorry Mark. Never seen it. In fact i'm having a difficult time conceptualizing what it would even look like. I'll continue to search and keep my eyes open since Heer sabers are my focal area. I don't know much about the Horster firm, and have never been a huge fan of their Heer sabers. That being said, i do however really enjoy their early nickel-silver fliegerschwerts. I kept a Horster flyers with the school markings, and as mentioned early, I have the 2 obligatory Heer patterns, which are not only the most common, but also the ones pictured in Angolia. I would like to add their "roon" style Heer pattern when one pops up which meets my needs and meets the standards I would like.

** Mark- I should ask...the piece you are referencing from memory, is it attributed to the NS era? Or from another era, Imperial, or Weimar? Some of the larger pommeld pieces, and larger gripped pieces pre-date many of the NS era sabers.


Tom

3rd Reich is all I've owned in German militaria, I have no interest in blades of any other period and never owned outside of that period. Not a re-hilted either.