Tag der Deutschen Seefahrt 1935

[Adrian Stevenson]

This tinnie can be found made by many different makers. Here are two from my collection.

Cheers, Ade.

[StuG]

Nice tinnies there Ade. I too have one of these,but it has no markings at the back. Does this make it a reproduction?
Regards
Thomas

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Thomas, no I don't think a lack of makers mark would condem it out of hand.

Please show it to us.

Cheers, Ade.

[Martin W]

Here is a list of manufacturers of the Seefahrt tinnie,including unmarked at the bottom of the page.

Martin,

[wilhelm saris]

Hello,
there was an extensive article about this tinny in the "Military Advisor"
(volume 19, number 4 from fall 2007),
written bij Wilhelm Saris and Mathieu de Wolf, assisted by Hans-Peter Lopatka
with about 21 pages. Many reverse were shown there.
The whole story about this tinny was told.

regards
HP.Lopatka

[RaymondG]

Hello,
there was an extensive article about this tinny in the "Military Advisor"
(volume 19, number 4 from fall 2007),
written bij Wilhelm Saris and Mathieu de Wolf, assisted by Hans-Peter Lopatka
with about 21 pages. Many reverse were shown there.
The whole story about this tinny was told.

regards
HP.Lopatka

I will have to look that up. These tinnies are rather desirable. I am not sure if they have been faked yet, but I guess they have.

Martin, thanks for posting up the list. My eyes are getting bad and so I could not read it. Is it possible to make crop the page in half and post both halves?

Raymond

[wilhelm saris]

wilhelm is "out of business" for a while.
He asked me to mention that in the article various fakes were shown,
one manufactured in the USA. one in Poland at least.
best regards
HP.Lopatka

[StuG]

Hi Ade. Here are the pics you requested of my suspect tinnie.
Regards
Thomas

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Thomas, I am not familiar with the fakes mentioned, but that one looks alright to me?

Cheers, Ade.

[Martin W]

Martin, thanks for posting up the list. My eyes are getting bad and so I could not read it. Is it possible to make crop the page in half and post both halves?

Raymond

Here you go Raymond.I hope this is better.This list is from the issue of Military Advisor mentioned by Hans-Peter.
Thomas,weights and measurements are included in this list if you want to make a comparison with your unmarked example.

Regards,Martin.

[M. Lupus]

Gentlemen,

Here's the list including 3 new makers we didn't know of at the time the mentioned article about the Seefahrt tinnies was published.

1 Willy Annetsberger Abzeichen- .Militär-Effekten-Fabrik
2 P. Erich Bruckmann Devotionalien- und Metallwarenfabrik
3 Deschler & Sohn Orden- u. Abzeichenfabrik
4 C. Th. Dicke Abzeichen- u, Metallwaren-Fabrik
5 Julius Dinnebier, Nachf. Metallwarenfabrik
6 Otto Fechler Abzeichenfabrik
7 Dr. Franke & Co GmbH Militäreffekten-Fabrik
8 Gebr. Gloerfeld Uniformeffekten-Fabrik
9 Gustav Hähl Präg- u. Dessinieranstalt, Abzeichenfabrik
10 Wilhelm Helbing Vereinsabzeichen -Fabrik
11 Ferdinand Hofstätter Festabzeichen u. Plaketten, Prägeanstalt
12 Friedrich Hosbach
13 Gottl. Friedrich Keck & Sohn Abzeichen- u. Metallwaren-Fabrik
14 Overhoff & Cie Militär-Artikel/ Metallwarenfabrik
15 Paulmann & Crone Abzeichen- u. Metallwaren-Fabrik
16 Wilhelm Polwitz
17 Werner Redo Prägeanstalt u. Abzeichen-Fabrik
18 Gold-und Silber –Scheide-Anstalt
19 Paul Schulze & Co.m.b.H. Gestanzte u. gezogene Bleckmassenartikel
20 Rudolf Wächtler & Lange Mittweidaer Metallwaren-Fabrik
21 Fedinand Wagner Abt. Prägungen
22 “Walgo” (Inh. Goseberg) Abzeichen- u. Metallwaren-Fabrik
23 Karl Wild Orden- u. Abzeichen-Hersteller
24 Ziemer & Söhne
25 Fritz Zimmermann Abzeichen- u. Metallwaren- Fabrik
26 Without marking

Markings we didn't know of at the time the article was published:
27 E.K. Haass
28 Gustav Brehmer
29 Walter Demmer Lüdenscheid

I'll try to post some photographs of the reproductions.

Mathieu de Wolf

[RaymondG]

Hi Mathieu

Firstly, welcome to the forum.

Any further information on the tinnie would be warmly appreciated and thanks for your input.

Best wishes

Raymond

[M. Lupus]

The two reproducions which I have in my collection.

The first is a Polish or eastern countries repro. Front and backside are shown.

The second I bought in the USA, but I'm not sure if this example has been made in the USA. Could be an Eastern countries repro badge too.

[M. Lupus]

Two tinnies, no maker mark. Different style of pin attachment.

[M. Lupus]

Hi Mathieu

Firstly, welcome to the forum.

Any further information on the tinnie would be warmly appreciated and thanks for your input.

Best wishes

Raymond

Hello Raymond,
Thanks for the welcome.
It's my pleasure to help.


Some different pin attachments form the Zimmermann tinnie. Collecting these tinnies is not only the different maker marks, but also different pin attachements. Or maker marks positioned at different places.

[M. Lupus]

Gloerfeld and Wachtler tinnies.
Notice te waves at the bow. Gloerfeld has a lot of waves, Wachtler has less.

[BOB COLEMAN]

The article Wim referred to in the "Military Adviser," is available from Bender Publishing. http://www.bender-publishing.com/

[StuG]

Hey, Thanks guys for all this interesting info. I will definitely be weighing my tinnie to see if it matches the chart. This really is a great forum.
Regards
Thomas

[M. Lupus]

Here's a photograph the solid silver badge (Credit: Helmut Weitze).
Also a photo of the Gorch Fock in her glory days. At first it looks as if the Gorch Fock was used for the Seefahrt tinnie. But it isn't. For example there's no eagle at the bow.
If someone has other maker marks, which are not mentioned in the list please post them!