Klaas Army Dagger

[sodak222]

JUst got this nice klaas army today. Most of the scabbards I have seen for klaas have had a screw on each edge of the scabbard but this only has on one screw on it. Did klaas make some scabbards with only one screw?
Rod

[Chuck Alan]

Greetings Rod~

You are correct in your observation. Most often the Klaas Heer dagger scabbards use two throat retention screws. What you have here with your example is a 'Generic" scabbard. Identifiable by the very distinctive oak leafs on the carrying bands combined with a centrally placed flush retaining screw.This scabbard is used by many of the less common makers. This does not mean that this scabbard is "wrong" It may just be that Klass ran a little short and purchased some of the generic ones. I would be a little concerned if the scabbard was an Alcoso, Pack WKC or Eickhorn produced example. But again other makers were known to purchase items from these manufacturers on occasion too.

I hope this answers your question.

Chuck

[sodak222]

Thanks for thne opinion Chuck. I sure wish I could see another example of a klaas with a single screw scabbard and maybe I could sleep tonight! This does have the desirable hand enhanced crossguard. I will shoot a pic of the crossguard and post it.
Rod

[sodak222]

Here is a shot of the crossguard. I think these hand enhanced guards are very cool.
Rod

[Chuck Alan]

Rod~

The cross guard is indeed a beauty and is definitely Klass. Don't fret over the scabbard too much as it may very well have been married to the dagger all along. The scabbard is generic, and, it is real. I suppose that it doesn't fall into the "textbook Klaas example" category. If the price was right I'd say it's a keeper. Is the pommel enhanced too? If so you might want to think about it, as these represent early work. Just my two cents.

Chuck

[sodak222]

Chuck. Here is the best my camera will do inside. The light is not the best. It does seem like there is some stippiling between some of the leaves. Can you tell by this picture if it is enhanced?
Rod

[Wim Vangossum]

To answer your last question: I think also the pommel received a little bit hand work. It's a nice dagger. And like Chuck mentioned about the scabbard: I would not worry to much. The patina on scabbard and fittings seems to be the same. Sometimes you can check by this way or they are for a long time together.

Regards, Wim :)

[sodak222]

Thanks Wim and Chuck. I do feel better now that I know there is a possibility that the dagger and the scabbard could be true mates!
Rod

[Chuck Alan]

Chuck. Here is the best my camera will do inside. The light is not the best. It does seem like there is some stippiling between some of the leaves. Can you tell by this picture if it is enhanced?
Rod

Rod I also agree that the pommel did in fact receive some enhancement. IMO it's a nice dagger with enhanced fittings. Again, looking through my references, the generic scabbard can be found on many different makes of daggers from time to time, due to the fact that occaisonally supplies did run short due to demand, or possibly, an interruption to their own manufacturing process. Nice dagger:thumbup1:

Chuck

[sodak222]

Thanks for the compliment and info Chuck. I posted this on another forum and one guy said every klaas dagger he has ever seen had the 2 screw scabbard! I will just leave it the way it is.
Rod

[Wim Vangossum]

I can partly understand the remark of that guy. Some types of daggers are almost always found with their "textbook" scabbards. In the case of the Klaas dagger that is the 2 screw version with "X" marks on the joints of the scabbard bands. But exeptions are always possible. If the scabbard wouldn't fit nice and the patina diden't match with the dagger fittings, you can assume the dagger and scabbard are married on a later stage. But if everything suited nice together -like here- I don't see the problem.

Regards, Wim :)

[sodak222]

Thanks for the info Wim. The patina matches the rest of the dagger and has a tight fit so I do think these have been together for awhile?
Rod