Post your HJ Daggers!

[Santi]

Lets create a good researchable reference thread. You can post your original HJ daggers here (and of course, scabbards too!)
To make this a great DataBase thread, try to post a small serie of photos of the dagger and not just a general photo of the knife if possible. For example: A photo showing the diamond, marker's mark, RZM number, overall of the blade and overall of the grips (if applicable). This will help for further researches on specifc characteristics of the markers, period manufacturing, etc.
One dagger per post please.

Please, refrain from posting fakes or comments. If you want to talk about something regarding a dagger posted here, open a new thread and do so there.


Raymond has pointed out some basic instructions to do so.

Please follow the these instructions carefully to ensure that this becomes an excellent, searchable database of known examples.

When posting images, try to keep your images in one post

As important, write in the title field some details of the badge.

This is very important as it means that the database becomes searchable for other members, rather than a collection of photographs



Many thanks!!!!

[Santi]

Dagger information (Markings, period,...).........................Post Number

Transitional Tiger with motto. Double marked with logo and M7/68 - Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen...............Post Number 3

Late Eickhorn. Double marked with logo and M7/66 - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen .............Post Number 4

Late Schüttelhofer marked M7/13 - Arthur Schüttelhofer & Co., Solingen-Wald....................Post Number 5 & 23

Late A. Evertz double marked M7/85 - Arthur Evertz, Solingen..................Post Number 6

Early Hahn with motto. Marked with logo and firm name - Hermann Hahn, Solingen Wald ...............Post Number 7

Early F.A Schmitz with motto. Marked with logo and firm name. - Friedrich August Schmitz, Solingen..............Post Number 8

Early Hammesfahr with motto. Marked with logo and firm name. - Gottlieb Hammesfahr Solingen Foche................. Post Number 10

HJ Leader dagger with hangers maker marked M7/36 and RZM - E.&F. Horster, Solingen..................Post Number 11

Late Hartkopf & Co. Double marked M7/40 - Hartkopf & Co., Solingen..................Post Number 12

Late Puma. Maker marked M7/27 and dated "1941" - Pumawerk Lauterjung & Sohn, Solingen............Post Number 12

Late Emil Voos. Maker marked M7/2. Dated "1938" - Emil Voos Waffenfabrik, Solingen................Post Number 13

Late WKC Maker marked M7/42 and dated "1942" - WKC, Solingen.............Post Number 14 & 18

Early Tiger with motto. Maker marked with firm name and logo - Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen.................Post Number 15

Early Pack with motto. Type with the eagle head pommel!. Maker marked with initials and logo - E. Pack & Sohne, Solingen.................. Post Number 16

Early TAGGED Puma with motto. Maker marked with logo - Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen................. Post Number 17

Minty transitional WKC with motto. Maker marked with logo, M7/42 and dated "1938" - WKC, Solingen ...............Post Number 19

Early SMF with motto. Maker marked with logo - SMF, Solingen................... Post Number 20

Early Lutters with motto. Maker marked with logo - C. Lutters & Co., Solingen.................. Post Number 21

Late Henckels. Maker marked with logo and M7/10 - J.H. Henckels, Solingen ...............Post Number 23

Late Konejung. Maker marked with M7/7 - Hermann Konejung AG, Solingen............Post Number 24

Early Merten with motto. Maker marked with logo - August Merten Mw., Solingen-Grafräth...............Post Number 25

Late Kaldenbach. Maker marked (rubber stamped) M7/12 and dated 1940 - Robert Kaldenbach, Solingen..............Post Number 26

Transitional Hartkopf with motto. Maker marked with logo, firm name and M7/40 /37 - Hartkopf & Co., Solingen........Post Number 27

Transitional Eickhorn with motto. Only marked with M1/66 - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen............Post Number 28

Early Eickhorn with motto. Maker marked with logo - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen...........Post Number 29

Transitional Wüsthof. Maker marked with firm name, logo M7/12 and dated "1939" - Ed. Wüsthof, Solingen................Post Number 30

Personalized transitional Gräfrath. Maker marked with firm name, M7/30 and dated "1938" - G. Gräfrath, Solingen........ Post Number 31

Early Eickhorn with motto. Maker marked with early logo - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen ..............Post Number 33

Period drawing of a HJ Knife in a Robert Klaas cataloque.........Post Number 35

Gebr. Lützenkirchen with motto. Maker marked with firm name and logo - Gebr. Lutzenkirchen, Solingen............Post Number 36

Late Eickhorn. Double marked M7/66 and dated "40" on the ricasso - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen..............Post Number 37

Transitional Hörster with motto. Fabricated (and marked this way) by Heinrich Böker & Co., Solingen. Marked M7/36 - E.&F. Hörster, Solingen........Post Number 38

Transitional Schüttelhöffer with motto. Maker marked with firm name and M7/13 - A. Schüttelhöffer & Co., Solingen Wald.............Post Number 39

Late Hartkopf. Maker marked with firm name, logo, and M7/40 - Hartkopf & Co, Solingen............Post Number 40

Early A. Wingen with motto. Maker marked with firm name & logo - Anton Wingen jr., Solingen...........Post Number 41

Late A. Wingen. Maker marked M7/51 and dated "41" - Anton Wingen jr., Solingen.................Post Number 42

Late Seilheimer. Maker marked M7/38 - Paul Seilheimer, Solingen...............Post Number 43

Transitional Gust. Köller with motto. Maker marked with firm name and M7/60, Gustav. L. Köller, Solingen..............Post Number 44

Transitonal WKC with motto. Maker marked with logo, M7/42 and dated 1937 - WKC, Solingen ............Post Number 45

Early Bell with motto. Maker marked with firm name and logo - Gebr. Bell, Solingen-Gr......................Post Number 46

Transitional Henckels with motto. Maker marked with firm name, logo and date "1937" - J.A. Henckels, Solingen...................Post Number 47

Early Eickhorns with motto. Maker marked with different types of logo's - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen.................Post Number 48,49 & 50

Very late Eickhorn. Maker marked with logo and M7/66 plus dated "1942"- Carl Eickhorn, Solingen...................Post Number 51

Late Eickhorn. Maker marked with logo and M7/66 plus dated "1939" - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen................Post number 52

Late Eickhorn. Maker marked with logo and M7/66 plus dated "1940" - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen.................Post Number 53

Transitional Eickhorn (no motto). Maker marked with logo and M7/66 plus dated "1938" - Carl Eickhorn, Solingen..................Post Number 54 & 55

Transitional Klaas (no motto). Maker marked with logo, firm name and M7/37 plus date "1938"- Robert Klaas, Solingen............Post number 56 &57

Transitional Puma. Maker marked with logo, Ges. Geschutzt, M7/27 plus date "1939" - Puma, Solingen................Post Number 58



Note:


Early period 1933 - 1936: Motto on blade - no ricasso or very thin ricasso - thin blade - maker marked on the blade with manufacturer name and logo + Ges. Geschützt.

Transitional period 1936 -1938: Motto on blade - thicker blade with high ricasso - double proofed with logo and RZM code + RZM mark.

Late period 1939 - 1945: No motto on the blade - high ricasso - RZM code en RZM mark -sometimes still double proofed.

[Santi]

Transitional period M7/68 which corresponds to Tigerwerk Lauterjung & Co., Solingen.
Marked with both, MM's and RZM number with motto.

[Swordfish]

Late Eickhorn, 1940. Only 1 left. Like many of the other daggers I have, I intend to keep this one. It came a number of years ago, again at a very good price.

It has one of those wierd "Lilesia" scabbard buttons. I've only seen a couple of these type buttons.

[lee-clark]

Hi guys
here is my one and only HJ. Arthur schüttelhofer & Co
Condition is not the best, but for the price €95,00 i think i got quite a good deal.
I am sure it will be the first of many!
Regards
Lee

http://www.worldwarmilitaria.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2107&stc=1&d=1217485807

http://www.worldwarmilitaria.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2108&stc=1&d=1217485807

http://www.worldwarmilitaria.com/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=2109&stc=1&d=1217485807

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi everyone,

A late war Arthur Evertz with zinc plated fittings. It's possible the scabbard recieved a new paint considering its almost flawless condition. However it seems to be done in a professional way. Had a stone mint Blut und Ehre in my hands not so long ago but diden't had the money at that time to buy it :crying:

Regards, Wim :)

[Mac 66]

EARLY HERMANN HAHN SELDOM SEEN MAKER:thumbup1:

[Mac 66]

EARLY FRIEDR.AUG.SCHMITZ. SELDOM SEEN MAKER:thumbup:

[Swordfish]

Also be aware of the HJ resource that Santi, Mike and a few others help create over at WAF. It's probably one of the most complete HJ reference libraries online at this moment. We should do our best to create one here at WWM which parities the thread at WAF. Until ours reaches that magnitude, be sure to check WAFs virtual HJ museum.

http://www.wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248967

[Wim Vangossum]

This one comes from my collection way back in 1999 and sold many years ago but I still have its pictures :D

Early Gottlieb Hammesfahr, Solingen. Foche with motto. (The leather buffer is probably a replacement).


Regards, Wim :)

[Mike Peters]

Thought I'd add an HJ Leader's Dagger into the Mix . The Hangers are worn but , still intact and I was glad they were still with the set. Hope you like it!

[Mike Peters]

Most of my Blades were local finds ..and we are not always lucky enough to find everything in "Mint" condition. I don't mind , in some cases it just adds personality to the item. Besides ..the Kids didn't wear these for Ceremony, they worked them
Here are 3 HJ Knives. I'll start with a double marked "Hartkopf" M7/40
Next is an M7/27 Lauterjung & Sohn 1941 dated ..too bad about the grip

[Mike Peters]

Here are 4 shots of an M7/2 Voos that probably was period repaired by the young boy's Dad ...it's been sharpened but , Dad did a great job on repairing the handle :thumbup1:

[Wim Vangossum]

Late WKC maker marked M7/42 and rzm. Dated 1942.

Regards, Wim :)

[sscrooge]

heres 1 i picked up yesterday,

[Mac 66]

Here we have an early hj knife by E.Pack & Sohne with eagle head pommel & high ricasso & thin blade with nut & bolt type pins for holding the griplates on instead of rivets.

[Fritziii]

Here is my on ly HJ left, picked this up at the Max show about 15 years ago.
Tagged Puma with motto, early first variation without riccasso,geschgesch marked, early diamond grip plates.

Fritziii

[RENATO RICCI]

hello, this is my dagger marked RZM M7/42
1942.GRAZIE.

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[Wim Vangossum]

Transitional WKC with motto. This dagger has been made in the first part of 1938 because on August 1938 the motto was no longer applied on the HJ Knives.


Regards, Wim :)

[janjan]

Hi
Here my first post on this forum.
I want to show my SMF Dagger not a often seen trademark
on HJ daggers

[Mac 66]

Early C.Lutters & Co, Solingen. motto is faint but readable in hand.......Regards Scott.

[stuart]

hi all
thought you might like to see my latest hj dagger a nice late war personalised dagger
stu

[Wim Vangossum]

Here some pictures of a M7/10 - J. A. Henckels, Solingen


Regards, Wim :)

[bobcam1]

My only one, a Hermann Konejung AG, Solingen, with a plastic hanger attached to the scabbard.

Cheers,
Bob.

[Wim Vangossum]

A few pictures of an early August Merten Mw, Solingen-Grafrath. (with motto)


Regards, Wim :)

[Wim Vangossum]

Late Carl Robert Kaldenbach without motto. HJ diamond in opaque email and very rare rubber stamped maker mark!


Regards, Wim :)

[Wim Vangossum]

I took some pictures of this transitional HJ knife with marvelous motto. The Knife is proudly displayed in a private collection.


Regards, Wim :)

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi everyone,

A good conditioned HJ knife with motto: a M7/ 66 Carl Eickhorn.

Regards, Wim :)

[nachomenorca]

Hi! Arrived today by airmail: an early Eickhorn with motto, as you can see the motto has been erased (real pity!) almost no ricasso, tiny diamond (it wiggles!), the scabbard have been repainted and the upper leather strap with the button is missing (as the scabbard has two runners I think is not the original one). Cheers.

[nachomenorca]

Hi! The last inclusion in my colection, a double proofed ED Wusthof with rzm & maker marks, does anybody know how common is this configuration (RZM & maker marks)? rusted grip & scabbard and the leather strip broken, but a really nice blade, best regards.

[Ron]

Hello
Here is one of my HJ knives. It is Grebruder Grafrath and RZM marked. Also has the name (I assume the original owner) scratched on the scabbard back. Has single runner scabbard. Still have not mastered how to take a pic of the blades without getting that glare! The grain is better than it appears. Ron

[Ron]

Last pic of Grafrath maker mark

[Ron]

Hello
Here is my other HJ. It is an early Eickhorn with motto. Has double runner scabbard. Ron

[Ron]

Last pic of Eickhorn

[wilhelm saris]

Hey guys,

very interesting thread about the HJ dagger, a field one can go on for "ages" and always will be of interest!
As I do not collect I cannot contribute with an item from my collection, but as far as I remember I haven't seen yet a dagger from the concern of Robert Klaas from Solingen-Ohligs. They had the RZM code M7/37.

I do show the dagger from the 1938-cataloque (which was a cataloque with drawings all over) and the manufacturers trademarking, as used by them.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Early pre RZM dagger (They only produced HJ knives before the RZM period!)

[Pascal BERNHARD]

a nice Eickhorn of 1940...

[nachomenorca]

Hi! Look at this transitional Boker with a RZM mark from E & F Horster, looks like a bit retipped (fine job), also motto is present, regards

[Mac 66]

Guys heres a Transitional Schuttelhofer i picked up the other week its not mint but its been here as they say:thumbup1:
Cheers Scott.

[Albion]

HJ Knife - RZM 7/40 - Hartkopf & Co - Solingen

[Mac 66]

Early Anton Wingen jr, no ricasso.:w00t:

[Mac 66]

RZM M7/51/41:thumbup:

[nachomenorca]

RZM M7/38 (Paul Seilheimer)

[Mac 66]

Transitional GUST.L.KÖLLER , Solingen. with Anodised blued scabbard;)

[Mac 66]

Transitional W.K.C with blued anodised scabbard.:thumbup:

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi,

These pictures are showed with permission from one of the moderators of the German daggers forum. A very nice early maker marked Gebr. Bell, Solingen-Gr.

Regards, Wim :)

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi, This is a nice example of a transitional Henckels HJ knife from the collection of our member "Bismarck"

Regards, Wim :)

[JohnZ]

I posted an early single oval Eichorn on another thread, but here is the first of two variations I have of the Eichorn double oval serrated tail HJ.

[JohnZ]

The second variation of this double oval Eickhorn serrated tail TM is this one

[JohnZ]

And here are the two side by side.

Look at the arms, the ears and the tail... very different, aren't they?

John

[JohnZ]

Next up is a late over the shoulder maker marked Eickhorn. I have seen a couple of different versions of this late HJ, but this is the one that I have.

[JohnZ]

Here is a 1939 dated double proofed Eickhorn.

[JohnZ]

And, here is a 1940 dated double proofed Eickhorn

[JohnZ]

I know that I have posted this in another thread here, but here is a 1938 transitional Eickhorn.

Enjoy,

John

[JohnZ]

And here is the TM

[carlos1]

Here is my double marked Klaas

[carlos1]

The rest of the pic`s

[Wim Vangossum]

From the collection of our member Rod (sodak222). A 1939 dated Puma HK knife.

[Wim Vangossum]

Hi everyone,

Pictures of the rare Eickhorn HJ leader dagger with its even more rare leather hangers.
Dagger Fittings are made from silvered aluminium. The scabbard is also made from aluminium and coverd with dark blue leather. This dagger was discovered by me early 2010 in a Belgian souvenir grouping and is now in an advanced private collection.

Regards, Wim :)

[bobcam1]

This is my 2nd HJ dagger. The paint is gone on the scabbard, and the blade has been s****ed up a bit, but that's what boys did with their knives....

I have only one other, (with the lesser-seen plastic scabbard strap), but it has no motto. I like this one and I'm happy to give it a new home.

Your comments and opinions are both welcomed and valued, as always.....

Cheers,
Bob.

[Wim Vangossum]

Talking about action: this one has really seen some action. Otherwise nice original!

(comments on this knife willl be replaced to "remarks on the pinned threads" and the pictures of the knife stay here :001_cool:)


Regards, Wim :)

[Santi]

This is my 2nd HJ dagger. The paint is gone on the scabbard, and the blade has been s****ed up a bit, but that's what boys did with their knives....

I have only one other, (with the lesser-seen plastic scabbard strap), but it has no motto. I like this one and I'm happy to give it a new home.

Your comments and opinions are both welcomed and valued, as always.....

Cheers,
Bob.

I love it!!
Congrats, Bob!
It's an early type knife, not too beated up, IMO. Just perfect, or just as i like them. :D

[bobcam1]

Wow....that was an odd word to censor...:confused1: The forum software is quite sensitive, yes?

I'll spell it "skraped", in the future....:laugh:

[den70]

:001_wub: It my HY sport presentation knife. Show where I can find information about the squad 19/232 "Lutzov"? Sorry for my bad English.
Best Den.

[JohnZ]

Most HJ Leaders that are found (the real ones I mean) have the RZM coded maker marks, and most of these are Horsters. Eickhorn made relatively few HJ Leaders.

I was lucky enough to find this early Eickhorn maker mark, using the 35-41 seated squirrel logo, on a beautiful plated blade.

John

[JohnZ]

At this year's SOS, I managed to find this nice Eickhorn HJ knife.

While the TM is a little worn, it sure looks to me like the double oval smooth tail version. The ears differ from the serrated tail versions that I have.

Here it is,

John

[JohnZ]

At this year's MAX, I picked up 3 Eickhorn HJs.

This first one has the 35-41 seated squirrel TM and an etched blade motto.

Not in the best shape, but a nice one to fill the hole in my Eick collection.

[JohnZ]

My second MAX pickup is this transitional 1941.

[JohnZ]

My last MAX pickup is this Eickhorn 1941 dated HJ with only the date on the ricasso. Obviously an error made at time of production, but proof that the date and the logo strikes were made as different steps.

John

[JohnZ]

A recent arrival, this is one that has the RZM 1942 date but no squirrel.

[JohnZ]

This is a variation double oval.

It has the straight arm, short eared squirrel and 6-pointed Stars above the word 'Solingen'.

John

[JohnZ]

Here is my latest Eick.

It is a 1937 dated transitional with a mottoed blade.